College Lifestyle Podcast-- Cougars Uncaged with Nick Hoogerhyde and Max Ballinger

Athletic Director Max Ballinger and Associate Head Baseball Coach Nick Hoogerhyde bring energy, humor, and heart to this episode of Cougars Uncaged—joined by our first-ever live studio audience.

Max shares his journey from joining Cleary in 2019 to leading a rapidly growing athletics program, while Nick reflects on being part of Cleary’s first baseball recruiting class and now helping shape the next generation of student-athletes.

From favorite campus spots (third-base dugout vs. press box views) to heated Thanksgiving hot takes (pumpkin pie, turkey, and gravy debates included), this episode balances laughs with meaningful moments. Both guests open up about the family values and mentors who shaped their leadership styles—highlighting the culture that defines Cleary Athletics.

The show wraps with a competitive baseball trivia showdown and, of course, a spirited “Roll Cougs!”

🎧 Tune in for a fun, fast-paced look at the people building Cleary Athletics from the inside out.

Transcript

Lonnie Preis  0:00  
Welcome. Kylie Walker, great to have you guys. Welcome. I'm already sweating 2003

Max Ballinger  0:22  
pistons, right? There is a mason on the mic. So Mason with, with Lonnie, with my name. We were making fun of my last name. Here. Were you ever called booger hide? Was that? Was that a bullyness and Beale city? I didn't get bullied.

Kylie Walker  0:36  
Okay. He was, wow, Max, that's crazy.

Max Ballinger  0:38  
I thought it was a fair question.

Lonnie Preis  0:41  
It was, it was, Hey, first ever studio audience. Can I Can we hear some applause from our studio audience? There they are. There's we have. We have five members of the athletic department here to support these two young men. And that's part of our trivia question. So start thinking about it right now first. Before we get going, we have some special guests here in our front and center. Nick could you kind of tell us a little bit about these three young men

Nick Hoogerhyde  1:11  
got them when I was about 10. Okay, can you tell us a little bit about them? Yeah? Johnny Bench Hall of Famer, Ted Williams and honest Wagner.

Lonnie Preis  1:19  
Very good. And this is Bob. Euchre. Rest in peace.

Nick Hoogerhyde  1:23  
But your names, okay, okay.

Lonnie Preis  1:25  
All right, we're gonna start here. Are you guys pumped, by the way, to get on this

Max Ballinger  1:30  
thing made fun of the whole time. So okay, it's no different than any other day. All right.

Kylie Walker  1:34  
Love it. Love it. Wow. Max, that's crazy.

Max Ballinger  1:38  
We're gonna go and I don't like it. Kylie, I like it.

Lonnie Preis  1:43  
Let's get to know you a little bit more. What? What do you do at Cleary? And what brought you here to Cleary?

Nick Hoogerhyde  1:52  
Go first. You're the boss. Sure.

Max Ballinger  1:54  
I guess my title is the boss. No, I got hired here in 2019 technically, you know, first week of 2020, so about to have my six year work anniversary here. Was started as the assistant athletic director now the athletic director for three years was a great opportunity to come here. Obviously, love it here in Howell and clear University and what we're building thanks to people in the room, like there's like their selves here to support get an awesome chance to work with some amazing people every day. So couldn't be happier with where we're at right now.

Nick Hoogerhyde  2:25  
Awesome Nick came here in 2014 I was part of the first recruiting class of baseball. Got my MBA, was a GM baseball team, got into the missions assistant coach. Now I'm an athletic Operations Coordinator and associate head baseball coach. Awesome.

Lonnie Preis  2:41  
Jack of all trades, master of all. Master of None. Okay, people want to know this. This is a question we ask a lot of people. But what do you two questions, what do you love most about Cleary and what is your favorite specific spot on this campus, two questions,

Nick Hoogerhyde  3:03  
how much it's grown in 10 years, like it's completely different than it was when I first got here, best spot on campus, third base dugout,

Lonnie Preis  3:14  
any any place specific in that dugout, the

Nick Hoogerhyde  3:16  
far south side, right next to the batting helmets. So you can look out. No fans see the whole field.

Lonnie Preis  3:22  
Nice. Love it.

Max Ballinger  3:23  
Love it. Yeah, I would say probably, you know, the chance to work with some amazing coaches, some amazing people every day over in our department, like hoogs was just saying. It's grown a lot since I've been here, not just Cleary, but athletics too. We definitely have had a lot of changes in adding some sports and coaches, but just getting the chance to come into the office and not feel like you're at work. It doesn't feel like a job. You know? It feels more like a more like a family type of atmosphere for us, favorite spot on campus, I would probably say, I gotta, I gotta go with the press box because it's getting warmer weather during a baseball or softball game. Specifically, if I get the the second spot down to the right, away from David, so I'm not bothering him, and if I get the computer chair, if, uh, Peter Houston doesn't steal it from me.

Lonnie Preis  4:09  
Okay, I love it. There's a it's amazing how many people have mentioned specific spots in Lake trust. Like some, some students have said, like, specific seats where they like to go and watch,

Nick Hoogerhyde  4:19  
definitely, unassigned, assigned seating. Yeah, yes,

Lonnie Preis  4:22  
yeah, definitely. Okay. This is a segment. We're moving right into the hot take segment. This is a big I know there's a lot of discussion about what you guys wanted to discuss. This hot take segment is somewhat new to the podcast, but you guys came up with the topic of Thanksgiving foods, and what you feel is the the thing you could do without at at Thanksgiving. So Nick, we'll start off with you. What is your what is your like? Not go to for a Thanksgiving

Nick Hoogerhyde  4:51  
dinner, pumpkin pie. Baby food tastes like baby food. Can't do anything with it. Brutal. You remember what baby. Food tastes like No, but I imagine that sounds like, okay, it's

Max Ballinger  5:03  
just simply a false, incorrect take. I mean, it's just an abysmal take out of all the things that Thanksgiving dinner, that's, that's what we're going with.

Nick Hoogerhyde  5:10  
Apple pie, so much better hands above it.

Max Ballinger  5:14  
I mean, hot take. Honestly, if you want to get rid of one, I mean, elephant in the room. Let's, let's talk about Turkey here. There's a reason why we only have it once a year.

Nick Hoogerhyde  5:21  
You can do soup, cold sandwiches with it, like you got multiple meals that you can do after the fact. I'll go leftovers, no waste.

Max Ballinger  5:30  
Give me a good spiral ham on Thanksgiving. I'll take it every day over Turkey. Pumpkin pie is an egregious take. I won't stand for

Nick Hoogerhyde  5:38  
it, not like a turkey is kind of like un American. I'm

Lonnie Preis  5:41  
just going to throw a question in here and feel free our studio honors if you have a question to throw in. But pumpkin pie? How often do you eat pumpkin pie outside of Thanksgiving?

Max Ballinger  5:54  
I feel like the host got me here. Hand up. I only have it about once

Lonnie Preis  5:59  
a year. I'm sorry, how much do you eat turkey outside of thanksgiving?

Nick Hoogerhyde  6:05  
Lot more than pumpkin pie. Probably like, are you talking about, like sandwiches?

Max Ballinger  6:13  
Like, I'll get lunch meat. Doesn't count,

Lonnie Preis  6:15  
not the lunch not the shaved lunch meat. We're talking like twice. So twice a year pumpkin pie.

Max Ballinger  6:20  
What's the other time when Lauren cooks it? Not the day after

Lonnie Preis  6:26  
not the day after Thanksgiving. Oh, I love it. Anything else? Anything else about these two delicacies?

Max Ballinger  6:37  
I mean, pumpkin pies for itself.

Nick Hoogerhyde  6:40  
What's the best one pie and one pie? Don't like best Thanksgiving food?

Max Ballinger  6:47  
No. Okay, what is it? Then mashed potatoes and grape other hot take. Don't go gravy on the mashed potatoes. Oh no, I don't

Lonnie Preis  6:57  
go anything on the mashed potatoes. I think we got the crowd

Max Ballinger  7:01  
that got the crowd going. There a little anything on mashed potatoes. I go, I go butter. I just go, butter on mashed potatoes, and that's it. Do you make like the little lake in the middle? Like you make a little hole?

Nick Hoogerhyde  7:11  
Oh, no, cheese, pepper, salt, just nothing.

Max Ballinger  7:16  
Cheese, like potatoes,

Nick Hoogerhyde  7:18  
shredded cheese. Have you never had famous bowl?

Max Ballinger  7:21  
No, I've had a KFC famous bowl. Talk about being un American here, attacking my character out here,

Nick Hoogerhyde  7:29  
there's cheese on it.

Max Ballinger  7:31  
That's fair. No, no cheese.

Kylie Walker  7:33  
Now I'm concerned for max if you don't put cheese on, like potato, like a baked potato, like, it's the same thing as mashed potatoes. You put cheese on top? I didn't

Max Ballinger  7:43  
know she was included in the hot take segment. Baked potatoes, same as mashed potatoes, actually.

Nick Hoogerhyde  7:49  
Let's ask about who eats baby food in college? Spin that camera around. What? Who Kylie last night? What?

Kylie Walker  8:00  
That's crazy. It's cheap. What can I say? Like, you get, like, banana baby food. It's basically banana pudding. It's 90 cents. You don't do that. You don't do that. When I was in college, yes, I did. It's cheap.

Max Ballinger  8:15  
That's what ramen is made for.

Nick Hoogerhyde  8:17  
Wow. Doodles. One

Lonnie Preis  8:19  
last question, we went off. We're this is kind of like the rapid I just want to ask about the gravy. What do y'all put gravy on? Where? What's at Thanksgiving? Anything? What do you use gravy for Thanksgiving

Nick Hoogerhyde  8:31  
goes on everything all over it, unless, like, you get, like the cucumber salad, stuff like that. No gravy. But everything else,

Max Ballinger  8:39  
anything hot you're putting that gravy on. Yes, absolutely nothing ever. Don't just drink it straight. What? No, I don't shot a gravy. It's a quick shot of gravy to get the to get the juices flowing.

Lonnie Preis  8:51  
Okay, baby food. You guys did. Okay, that's an issue that's going to be an interesting discussion for another time. A studio audience, anything you want to. I don't know if you want to vote on this or say anything. 100% agree with Max. Gravy belongs on top of the trash. Yeah, okay, all right. People are behind max on gravy. Horrible take and it is 100% gravy goes on everything. I'm a gravy guy. David, you're the tiebreaker.

Nick Hoogerhyde  9:21  
No gravy, no. Highly gravy. David doesn't

Kylie Walker  9:24  
like I'm a gravy on everything. Boom.

Lonnie Preis  9:26  
Gravy wins. Okay, let's get some gravy up in here. Hi. That's a draw. Let's go back to the pumpkin pie. That's the fifth person of the crowd. Pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pie, Turkey. Who won that hot take? Pumpkin Pie. Turkey is better. Turkey's better. I'm taking turkey. Jerry question and say your name. Let's go turkey. Okay, all right, moving on. Next segment behind the curtain, we're gonna get to know you guys a little bit better at a deeper

Nick Hoogerhyde  9:58  
level, deep get. Do the current thing.

Lonnie Preis  10:01  
You don't do it. Oh, you're gonna do any talk. I did it, and he didn't do

Max Ballinger  10:05  
that's all together.

Lonnie Preis  10:10  
Okay, here we go. If you could meet anybody on this planet who we've never met before, who would it be and what's the first thing you would say to them?

Nick Hoogerhyde  10:26  
Go for it. Jim Leland,

Lonnie Preis  10:28  
Jimmy smokes. Jimmy smokes. What would you say to him? What's first question you'd ask him?

Nick Hoogerhyde  10:32  
What was it like yelling at Barry Bonds in spring training?

Lonnie Preis  10:36  
Very specific and unique.

Max Ballinger  10:38  
I like it. That's a good one. Um, jeez, there's so many. I'll go, I'll go opposite of sports. I'll go with music. I'll probably go, I go with Eddie Vedder. He's one of my favorite musicians. Pearl James, one of my favorite bands. So 10, that's, yeah, best album ever. Amazing album, yep, it's in my top 10. Absolutely. I mean, no pun intended, or Quincy, however you wanna call it, I'd probably ask him, I guess, what into the when it went into the making of that album, like, how to, you know, the inspiration behind it, how everything got made, and, you know, maybe some of his, his high wire acts climbing up on, you know, top of the concert stages and everything like that. So missed out an opportunity to go see Pearl Jam in in Chicago a couple years ago with, with David, unfortunately, but that one, that one hurts, but I think I'd go with. Eddie Vedder, okay.

Lonnie Preis  11:23  
Did you go? David, okay. Isn't better a big cubbies fan? He is. Yeah, yep, okay. Along the same lines, you have, you have three hours to spend with these guys. You cannot do anything music related. You cannot do anything baseball related. What would you do with if you could hang

Max Ballinger  11:45  
I mean, yours is so much easier than mine is. I mean,

Nick Hoogerhyde  11:50  
I feel like he, he probably is a guy that, like, goes out on a boat, fishes a little bit, has a couple beers, okay, I think that's what we would do. Okay, hopefully it's a nice summer night.

Max Ballinger  11:59  
Have a couple smokes. Yeah?

Max Ballinger  12:06  
I said probably try to go to a Cubs game with Eddie maybe, if it was cubs tigers, obviously would be, would be the best. But I've never been to Wrigley, so getting a chance to go to Wrigley with Eddie Vedder would seem like a pretty good bucket list. Yeah, win better

Nick Hoogerhyde  12:19  
right now. Scoobs on the

Max Ballinger  12:21  
mountain. We're going Tigers all day, yeah,

Lonnie Preis  12:25  
but that, yeah, it's going to see Wrigley. And that'd be, that'd be awesome. Okay, on a more personal level, who in your life has impacted you guys the most, and how, and how have they done that? It could be somebody who's passed away, or somebody who's still alive, just one person, yeah, just one. Some of

Max Ballinger  12:43  
you, yeah, I would, God, there's so many, but it's might be a basic answer, but the first person is definitely my mom. You know, just taught me a lot about life and perseverance. You know, how to battle with adversity. You know, she's just taught me so much and how to be a strong willed person, and really to think about everybody other than myself. First, you know, growing up in, you know, small town and everything, and just teaching me those kind of core values. You know, my dad passed away when I was when I was young, and seeing her deal with all of that and how strong she went through it, you know, there's no playbook. Like we were talking the other day about similar situations. You know, there's no playbook and how to deal with that and and everything in life. So I would say definitely my mom. Awesome, awesome.

Lonnie Preis  13:28  
Well, I know we have 1000s of viewers, but just in case we don't have 1000s, definitely have your mom watch, because that's she'd love to hear that shout out, mom. Yeah, Nick, how about you?

Nick Hoogerhyde  13:37  
I'm probably, I mean, both my parents. I mean, I know you said one person, but I mean they kind of taught us, like on hard work and never giving up, and really kind of supported us, but kind of threw us out there and we're there. They were there to catch us if we were failing, but they wanted us to kind of really learn through failure and try new things. And like my parents, they never really moved away from home that far. So like, when I came down here for college, like, that's a big it was a big jump. Big jump, and I've been down here ever since, and they really kind of supported me and my brother, nice.

Lonnie Preis  14:07  
I'm gonna put you on the spot. Can you think of a time that you that they had you try something or let you try something that you maybe didn't do well in, you failed in and but you learned from it. Can you think of

Nick Hoogerhyde  14:19  
seventh grade football? Oh, got absolutely demolished, but

Lonnie Preis  14:23  
didn't you go on to play more after? Oh, okay, okay, but I came back after day one.

Nick Hoogerhyde  14:27  
And, yeah, when you get hit a lot, it doesn't help when you've never been hit that much so, and they're just like, get back on the horse you're doing. They didn't let me quit. So, love it. Love it. Okay, thank

Lonnie Preis  14:38  
you guys for letting us dig a little deeper into some people, very special people in your lives. We are moving into a segment called Rapid Fire.

Lonnie Preis  14:51  
More in the studio audience. I love it. I love it. Okay, here we go. This is going fast. If you want to chime in and mock each other. With your answers, feel free. Studio audience, but this is great. We are going fast, back and forth. Here we go. My favorite question ever, weirdest thing you've ever

Nick Hoogerhyde  15:07  
eaten, Nick venison. Heart.

Max Ballinger  15:10  
Oh, I mean, it's got to be gravy.

Lonnie Preis  15:15  
Terrible. Love it. Biggest pet peeve is

Max Ballinger  15:22  
my biggest pet peeve, geez, I would probably go with when people take, take the take their birthday off of work after their 21st birthday. Oh, you can't do it after you can't do it lands, taking off her birthday every, every day, every year, every day, year in the world, all right.

Lonnie Preis  15:45  
Biggest pet peeve, Nick

Nick Hoogerhyde  15:48  
chewing with your mouth open. Oh, can't stand it. Good.

Lonnie Preis  15:51  
One dream vacation spot, Montana. Have you been there? No, oh, I'm going to summer all the

Max Ballinger  15:58  
places in the world. Montana,

Nick Hoogerhyde  16:00  
that's up in the middle of easy big

Kylie Walker  16:03  
cat, wow. Max, that's crazy.

Lonnie Preis  16:07  
I have relatives, yeah,

Max Ballinger  16:08  
um, jeez, I would say geez. Leanne helped me out. Leanne's been to every other country in the world, honestly, one that we're talking about doing. I really want to go to Japan. So my wife, I think, is gonna make me go on that one. So I'd probably say Japan.

Lonnie Preis  16:23  
Okay, right back at you. If you had a superpower, what would it be first, right?

Max Ballinger  16:31  
Trans, transportation, transport, teleport. That's why

Lonnie Preis  16:35  
you want to fly. Excellent. Your go to comfort show or movie,

Nick Hoogerhyde  16:40  
comfort or, like best show, either one,

Max Ballinger  16:47  
Sons of Anarchy, I would say comfort movie. I'm just going with the one I've seen the most in my life, and it's probably good fellows. It's not really comfort, because they're, you know, certain things that happen in it. But I'd probably just go with good fellows. Oh, got

Nick Hoogerhyde  17:01  
some river runs through it. Oh, that's a great one too, through it. That's a great one.

Lonnie Preis  17:06  
What's one thing on your bucket list?

Max Ballinger  17:10  
Geez, I think it's turn is, I'm gonna

Nick Hoogerhyde  17:12  
get a lot of crap for this, but going to Yankee Stadium,

Lonnie Preis  17:16  
but you haven't been there yet. Oh,

Max Ballinger  17:17  
okay, newer. I mean, obviously old doesn't exist anymore, but you're fine. You're fine with going to the new Yankee Stadium.

Nick Hoogerhyde  17:23  
Like with, I would go to the new Yankee Stadium and then walk right across the road and just wherever it was, just

Max Ballinger  17:29  
go, yeah, like, I've only been to New haven't, haven't been to old Yankee Stadium. Man, bucket list, I would say, God, I would. I would have said something about the ballparks too. You know it definitely, I just mocked you for Montana, but Yellowstone is definitely up there.

Nick Hoogerhyde  17:45  
Stone can't say that. Just you mock someone can't say that

Max Ballinger  17:49  
Yellowstone specifically in Wyoming, not Montana.

Lonnie Preis  17:52  
Oh, okay, got it all right. Well, little bit faster. Here we go. Favorite sports team,

Max Ballinger  18:00  
I will go with it's Michigan State basketball, okay, not clear, university basketball,

Lonnie Preis  18:08  
yeah, that's tough look. Yankees texting or calling, texting, calling. Interesting. We could have had a little hot take on that young generation. Who would who would you play? If you could play any character in a movie, what movie would you want to be in? Favorite character?

Max Ballinger  18:24  
I would say I probably go. Henry Hill, Goodfellas again.

Lonnie Preis  18:30  
Nice. Captain

Nick Hoogerhyde  18:31  
America. Nice. Favorite season. Marvel character,

Lonnie Preis  18:37  
favorite season of the year, summer, fall, okay, celebrity crush,

Max Ballinger  18:49  
I would say, All right, this is going to be a specific one. I'm David kind of, I think knows maybe where I'm going here. I'm going 90s. Jennifer Conley,

Lonnie Preis  18:59  
okay, I see the nodding ahead of approval.

Nick Hoogerhyde  19:02  
Megan Fox first transformers, fair enough.

Lonnie Preis  19:06  
She might have been, she might have been on this before.

Kylie Walker  19:08  
The funny thing is, is he's not the first one to say that in the podcast, either. What I thought,

Lonnie Preis  19:12  
That's what I thought. One food that you could eat every day, steak, cereal. Interesting. I could come on, all right, my last question describe yourself in three words, loyal, trustworthy, relaxed, okay, caring.

Nick Hoogerhyde  19:44  
Hard working, I'd go, I mean, it's like a dash, right there, and then loyal, okay,

Lonnie Preis  19:53  
he copied, that's right, it's flattering, yeah, all right. Thank you guys for rapid fire. Kylie, thank you. All right, we are to a time that we've all been waiting for. It's called Showtime. Show us what you know, competition. Yes, we know how competitive you guys are, and we're going to find out who's going to win this so the topic is baseball players. We're going to change this game up a little bit where it's not just going back and forth with names of baseball players. We'd be here all day till till night. How we're going to play. This is Nick you're going to start you're going to say a player's name. Let's just say Mickey Mantle. First letter of the last name starts with M Max, then has to say a baseball player whose first name starts with that letter, whatever he says, You got to take the first letter the last name. First Name, there we have, it's great we have the studio audience, because you can help clarify if these guys duplicate an answer or say somebody that is not a real baseball player.

Nick Hoogerhyde  20:56  
I got one question. Yes, I'm real names. What if I butcher the last name, well, we're

Lonnie Preis  21:04  
gonna give you three seconds. Is normally what people say for you guys asked for five we're gonna go four seconds. It's very unofficial. It's me basically saying One, two, I'll just be in your head. You think you're gonna run the table for a long time? My money is that that's not going to happen.

Nick Hoogerhyde  21:21  
Well, how long do you want? Because I can end it. Since I'm going first, I can end it right away. No, no, I

Lonnie Preis  21:25  
want to see how far you can get. Okay, all right, Showtime. Show us what you know. Nick, start us off.

Nick Hoogerhyde  21:33  
Mickey, mantle, start over. I had

Max Ballinger  21:37  
the Ender for that. I had the Ender. I was gonna end it

Nick Hoogerhyde  21:41  
after one right there. Oh, we could go that way. I

Lonnie Preis  21:43  
could. No, no, you got to show you gotta. You gotta give a little Johnny Bench,

Max Ballinger  21:48  
Barry Bonds, Barry Zito. Zach McKinstry,

Nick Hoogerhyde  21:54  
Mickey Mantle, okay, we can't. We gotta use them.

Lonnie Preis  21:57  
Okay, fine. Use Mickey Mantle.

Max Ballinger  21:59  
Mark fedrich, Frank Thomas, you're going that one. I will go with one. Two. Tyler glass now.

Nick Hoogerhyde  22:10  
Gary Sheffield, Steve sparks, Stephen Kwan

Max Ballinger  22:18  
Kelly, Carpenter, Carrie Carpenter, sorry. Carlos Delgado, ooh, rolled off the toe. I like that one. We're going Doug McKay, bitch

Nick Hoogerhyde  22:37  
one. Mark McGuire, Mariano, Rivera, Reggie Jackson, Jack Morris, going to x1, two.

Nick Hoogerhyde  22:55  
I knew this was gonna happen. Mark lighter. Mark, lighter Larry Walker, one, two. Why am I blanking right now? Wilson, Contreras,

Max Ballinger  23:12  
ooh, I just said one, I thought you're gonna go with Merrifield. Contreras, we're gonna go with Carlos Gonzalez. Why?

Nick Hoogerhyde  23:23  
Am I two? We practice this too. George Brett, yeah, that was good one.

Max Ballinger  23:29  
We'll go with Oh, no 1023 Brett Boone, oh. Brett Boone,

Lonnie Preis  23:41  
I don't know why. No helping. We weren't helping.

Nick Hoogerhyde  23:45  
We helped each other once. Blakeer,

Max Ballinger  23:51  
okay. Steve Finley, this

Lonnie Preis  23:55  
is a record everyone. Frank Robinson,

Nick Hoogerhyde  24:01  
one two, Roger Clemens, Curt, Schilling. Another s1

Max Ballinger  24:10  
two, say a Suzuki, oh at the buzzer, shut up. Cubs.

Lonnie Preis  24:18  
123 two, three, we have a winner. Max is our winner? Give it up for these two. Probably the best run, maybe that we've ever seen on a podcast. Pretty good under

Nick Hoogerhyde  24:33  
pressure. That was a good one. Great job

Lonnie Preis  24:36  
as we wrap up every show. We have trivia questions. Go to student life@cleary.edu We have a double dose, double decker, double dipper, two trivia questions today. Max you're going to share with us our first question. Yep.

Max Ballinger  24:48  
So when Cleary reintroduced athletics, what was the first sport that was reintroduced, that started up athletic program again?

Lonnie Preis  24:57  
Got it everyone first sport that clear. Very brought back when they reintroduce sports. Go to student life@cleary.edu You can answer both these questions at the same time. The second question is that we have five members for the first time in our studio audience. I'm going to have you all say hi or say hello, so maybe they can recognize your voice. And here's a little hint, four of our five members can actually say hello. One cannot, but they are all located on the athletic website. You're going to get a massive prize if you get this right. So keep guessing. Go ahead, hello, hello, hello. And then our other fifth member cannot speak. Oh, no, nope. Can't do it. Okay, everyone. Thank you studio audience. Give yourself a round of applause. Thank you Max. Thank you Nick. As we do every time we pound this table, we try and knock something off. We don't want these guys. And we're gonna go 123, roll Cougs at the end, after we get nuts. Got it? Thank you guys for being here. Any any last words for everyone else?

Max Ballinger  26:05  
Yeah, thanks for having us on. Shout out, Kylie for helping us out. Operate the camera last night at basketball, yeah,

Nick Hoogerhyde  26:11  
best camera personnel.

Lonnie Preis  26:15  
What can I say? All right, let's get it out of here. On behalf of the dead dwellers and our studio audience. Thank you. Max. You.